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    #16
    Semi OT: Miva Script Editor



    Andrew Noce wrote:

    > Code completion would be nice for Edit Plus but not the way they
    > implement it, it needs to work more like a "combo-box", instead of
    > assuming the completion on enter.

    Yuck, I can't stand that type of auto-completion. I love the way it's
    done in EditPlus :) But to appreciate auto-complete that way, you really
    gotta spend some time rolling your own auto-complete file. I've been
    using it for so long I probably couldn't code a damn thing without it, heh.

    > A list of all variables and objects in the page would be awesome,
    > something I think Gorilla has indicated that Boxer does.

    In case you haven't used it, you can generate function lists. I just use
    '<MvFUNCTION NAME' for the pattern which works fine.

    This topic comes up once a year or so, and it's always cool to see what
    everyone is using now. Sometimes I try other editors for a while, but
    always seem to go back to my old friend.

    --

    Adam
    http://vikingcoders.com





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      #17
      Semi OT: Miva Script Editor



      Hi Bruce,=20

      You don't see a VB cart out there because they usually are written in =
      ASP
      (.NET), with either VB or C# as two of many possible server-side =
      languages
      (others include even Javascript, C++, Eiffel, Java and a few others). =
      That
      is actually the great thing about .NET - the ability to use the language =
      you
      like best to do the job. This is particulary interesting now with Mono =
      out
      there, so one can use a decent server...=20

      Markus



      -----Original Message-----
      From: [email protected] =
      [mailto:[email protected]]
      On Behalf Of Bruce Golub
      Sent: Dienstag, 8. M=E4rz 2005 18:37
      To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
      Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

      > I'm sure comparing Miva to VB is like comparing Apple to PC,

      No, its like comparing Cold medicines to Flu vaccines.

      > but then the other side of the coin is that VB based languages seem to =

      > be much better then Miva from my perspective. How can someone with=20
      > proficiency in both languages possibly prefer MV over VB? Shall we=20
      > compare functionality and ease of use? Speed and shortcuts? Tools and=20
      > support? I can quote a list of reasons why I think Vb is far, far=20
      > better, but not unless invited to do so. Donning my flame-suit.

      I don't see any VB cart systems out there...I can build a secure form
      processor faster in mivascript than you can even get a vb shell up...but
      then, it would be hard to write StoreMan in Mivascript no?

      -Bruce (who thought he had the flu but just has a cold so I know what =
      I'm
      taking about as far as the analogy goes) Golub
      =20
      > Andrew
      >=20
      > =20
      >=20
      >=20
      >=20
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]
      > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:42 AM
      > > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
      > > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
      > >=20
      > >=20
      > > Well, especially when you created the basic Mivascript Syntax=20
      > > library<G>. Frankly, though I lust sometimes for the
      > features in other
      > > editors, its what you grew up with, and since I grew up
      > with TextPad
      > > (thanks to Jonathan), its what I'm most comfortable with.
      > >=20
      > > -Bruce
      > >=20
      > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > From: [email protected]=20
      > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
      > > > - Driftwood
      > > > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:34 PM
      > > > To: William Gilligan; Miva Merchant Coders
      > > > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
      > > >=20
      > > > TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva Script code=20
      > > > dictionary and syntax libraries available on their site.
      > > >=20
      > > > There is none other (grin)
      > > >=20
      > > > Jonathan
      > > > Driftwood Network Services
      > > >=20
      > > >=20
      > > >=20
      > > > At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
      > > > >Hi Everyone,
      > > > >I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but=20
      > > > >unfortunalty it seems the developer is unavailable.
      > > > >
      > > > >Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
      > > > with builtin
      > > > >compiler support?
      > > > >If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
      > > > >
      > > > >Bill
      > > > >
      > > > =
      >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
      > > > >William Gilligan
      > > > >Gilligan On-Line
      > > >=20
      > > >=20
      > > >=20

      Comment


        #18
        Semi OT: Miva Script Editor



        When I say VB I mean VBScript or VB.NET. There are online shopping carts
        for both.

        Why do you suspect you can build a secure forms processor faster in Mv
        then VB? Can you give me an example so we can compare? I'm curious why
        you chose this example, and I'd really like to carry on a comparison
        thread.
        I did notice the functionality of MvDO is useful compared to
        server.execute, as I indicated in a previous post, but in all cases
        where VBScript fails in comparison to Mv, I suspect VB.Net compensates
        for, and then some!


        Andrew Noce=20
        Director of Technology
        Hotel Interactive, Inc.=20
        Hospitality Industry News and Services=20
        <A HREF ="http://www.hotelinteractive.com=20">http://www.hotelinteractive.com=20</A>



        =20



        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]=20
        > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:37 PM
        > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
        > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
        >=20
        >=20
        > > I'm sure comparing Miva to VB is like comparing Apple to PC,
        >=20
        > No, its like comparing Cold medicines to Flu vaccines.
        >=20
        > > but then the other side of the coin is that VB based
        > > languages seem to be much better then Miva from my=20
        > > perspective. How can someone with proficiency in both=20
        > > languages possibly prefer MV over VB? Shall we compare=20
        > > functionality and ease of use? Speed and shortcuts? Tools and=20
        > > support? I can quote a list of reasons why I think Vb is far,=20
        > > far better, but not unless invited to do so. Donning my flame-suit.
        >=20
        > I don't see any VB cart systems out there...I can build a=20
        > secure form processor faster in mivascript than you can even=20
        > get a vb shell up...but then, it would be hard to write=20
        > StoreMan in Mivascript no?
        >=20
        > -Bruce (who thought he had the flu but just has a cold so I=20
        > know what I'm taking about as far as the analogy goes) Golub
        > =20
        > > Andrew
        > >=20
        > > =20
        > >=20
        > >=20
        > >=20
        > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]
        > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:42 AM
        > > > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
        > > > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
        > > >=20
        > > >=20
        > > > Well, especially when you created the basic Mivascript Syntax
        > > > library<G>. Frankly, though I lust sometimes for the=20
        > > features in other
        > > > editors, its what you grew up with, and since I grew up
        > > with TextPad
        > > > (thanks to Jonathan), its what I'm most comfortable with.
        > > >=20
        > > > -Bruce
        > > >=20
        > > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > > From: [email protected]
        > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
        > > > > - Driftwood
        > > > > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:34 PM
        > > > > To: William Gilligan; Miva Merchant Coders
        > > > > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
        > > > >=20
        > > > > TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva Script code
        > > > > dictionary and syntax libraries available on their site.
        > > > >=20
        > > > > There is none other (grin)
        > > > >=20
        > > > > Jonathan
        > > > > Driftwood Network Services
        > > > >=20
        > > > >=20
        > > > >=20
        > > > > At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
        > > > > >Hi Everyone,
        > > > > >I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but
        > > > > >unfortunalty it seems the developer is unavailable.
        > > > > >
        > > > > >Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
        > > > > with builtin
        > > > > >compiler support?
        > > > > >If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
        > > > > >
        > > > > >Bill
        > > > > >
        > > > > =
        >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
        =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
        > > > > >William Gilligan
        > > > > >Gilligan On-Line
        > > > >=20
        > > > >=20
        > > > >=20

        Comment


          #19
          Semi OT: Miva Script Editor



          I toll u I hadb a cold <G>

          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: [email protected]=20
          > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MvMarkus
          > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:50 AM
          > To: 'Bruce Golub'; 'Miva Merchant Coders'
          > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
          >=20
          > Hi Bruce,=20
          >=20
          > You don't see a VB cart out there because they usually are=20
          > written in ASP (.NET), with either VB or C# as two of many=20
          > possible server-side languages (others include even=20
          > Javascript, C++, Eiffel, Java and a few others). That is=20
          > actually the great thing about .NET - the ability to use the=20
          > language you like best to do the job. This is particulary=20
          > interesting now with Mono out there, so one can use a decent=20
          > server...=20
          >=20
          > Markus
          >=20
          >=20
          >=20
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: [email protected]=20
          > [mailto:[email protected]]
          > On Behalf Of Bruce Golub
          > Sent: Dienstag, 8. M=E4rz 2005 18:37
          > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
          > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
          >=20
          > > I'm sure comparing Miva to VB is like comparing Apple to PC,
          >=20
          > No, its like comparing Cold medicines to Flu vaccines.
          >=20
          > > but then the other side of the coin is that VB based=20
          > languages seem to=20
          > > be much better then Miva from my perspective. How can someone with=20
          > > proficiency in both languages possibly prefer MV over VB? Shall we=20
          > > compare functionality and ease of use? Speed and shortcuts?=20
          > Tools and=20
          > > support? I can quote a list of reasons why I think Vb is far, far=20
          > > better, but not unless invited to do so. Donning my flame-suit.
          >=20
          > I don't see any VB cart systems out there...I can build a=20
          > secure form processor faster in mivascript than you can even=20
          > get a vb shell up...but then, it would be hard to write=20
          > StoreMan in Mivascript no?
          >=20
          > -Bruce (who thought he had the flu but just has a cold so I=20
          > know what I'm taking about as far as the analogy goes) Golub
          > =20
          > > Andrew
          > >=20
          > > =20
          > >=20
          > >=20
          > >=20
          > > > -----Original Message-----
          > > > From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]
          > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:42 AM
          > > > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
          > > > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
          > > >=20
          > > >=20
          > > > Well, especially when you created the basic Mivascript Syntax=20
          > > > library<G>. Frankly, though I lust sometimes for the
          > > features in other
          > > > editors, its what you grew up with, and since I grew up
          > > with TextPad
          > > > (thanks to Jonathan), its what I'm most comfortable with.
          > > >=20
          > > > -Bruce
          > > >=20
          > > > > -----Original Message-----
          > > > > From: [email protected]=20
          > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
          > > > > - Driftwood
          > > > > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:34 PM
          > > > > To: William Gilligan; Miva Merchant Coders
          > > > > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
          > > > >=20
          > > > > TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva=20
          > Script code=20
          > > > > dictionary and syntax libraries available on their site.
          > > > >=20
          > > > > There is none other (grin)
          > > > >=20
          > > > > Jonathan
          > > > > Driftwood Network Services
          > > > >=20
          > > > >=20
          > > > >=20
          > > > > At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
          > > > > >Hi Everyone,
          > > > > >I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but=20
          > > > > >unfortunalty it seems the developer is unavailable.
          > > > > >
          > > > > >Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
          > > > > with builtin
          > > > > >compiler support?
          > > > > >If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
          > > > > >
          > > > > >Bill
          > > > > >
          > > > > =
          >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
          =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
          > > > > >William Gilligan
          > > > > >Gilligan On-Line
          > > > >=20
          > > > >=20
          > > > >=20

          Comment


            #20
            Semi OT: Miva Script Editor



            An, in case anyone really was interested, here's how to process a secure
            form in VB.
            It's not the most secure way, but it is the fastest.
            It will re-populate the form for a "profile" page, or retain the data if
            they click BACK on a secure form.

            script_name =3D request.servervariables("script_name"))
            if request.servervariables("https") <> "ON" then
            =09
            response.redirect(replace(request.servervariables( "host"),"http","https"
            ) & script_name)
            end if

            if request.form("process") =3D "YES" then
            Set cn =3D Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
            Set rs =3D Server.CreateObject("ADODB.RecordSet")
            cn.Open Application("sql_constring")
            rs.Open "table_name", cn
            for each field_name in request.form
            data =3D trim(Request.form(field_name))
            for each fld in rs.fields
            if field_name =3D fld.name then
            rs(field_name) =3D data
            session(field_name) =3D data
            end if
            next
            next
            rs.close
            end if

            <form name=3D"form" method=3D"post" action=3D"<%=3Dscript_name%>">
            <input type=3D"hidden" name=3D"process" value=3D"YES">
            <input type=3D"text" name=3D"control_name1"
            value=3D"<%=3Dsession("control_name1")%>">
            <input type=3D"text" name=3D"control_name2"
            value=3D"<%=3Dsession("control_name2")%>">
            <input type=3D"text" name=3D"control_name3"
            value=3D"<%=3Dsession("control_name3")%>">
            <input type=3D"submit" value=3D"GO!">
            </form>



            Andrew=20



            =20



            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]=20
            > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:37 PM
            > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
            > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
            >=20
            >=20
            > > I'm sure comparing Miva to VB is like comparing Apple to PC,
            >=20
            > No, its like comparing Cold medicines to Flu vaccines.
            >=20
            > > but then the other side of the coin is that VB based
            > > languages seem to be much better then Miva from my=20
            > > perspective. How can someone with proficiency in both=20
            > > languages possibly prefer MV over VB? Shall we compare=20
            > > functionality and ease of use? Speed and shortcuts? Tools and=20
            > > support? I can quote a list of reasons why I think Vb is far,=20
            > > far better, but not unless invited to do so. Donning my flame-suit.
            >=20
            > I don't see any VB cart systems out there...I can build a=20
            > secure form processor faster in mivascript than you can even=20
            > get a vb shell up...but then, it would be hard to write=20
            > StoreMan in Mivascript no?
            >=20
            > -Bruce (who thought he had the flu but just has a cold so I=20
            > know what I'm taking about as far as the analogy goes) Golub
            > =20
            > > Andrew
            > >=20
            > > =20
            > >=20
            > >=20
            > >=20
            > > > -----Original Message-----
            > > > From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]
            > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:42 AM
            > > > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
            > > > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
            > > >=20
            > > >=20
            > > > Well, especially when you created the basic Mivascript Syntax
            > > > library<G>. Frankly, though I lust sometimes for the=20
            > > features in other
            > > > editors, its what you grew up with, and since I grew up
            > > with TextPad
            > > > (thanks to Jonathan), its what I'm most comfortable with.
            > > >=20
            > > > -Bruce
            > > >=20
            > > > > -----Original Message-----
            > > > > From: [email protected]
            > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
            > > > > - Driftwood
            > > > > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:34 PM
            > > > > To: William Gilligan; Miva Merchant Coders
            > > > > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
            > > > >=20
            > > > > TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva Script code
            > > > > dictionary and syntax libraries available on their site.
            > > > >=20
            > > > > There is none other (grin)
            > > > >=20
            > > > > Jonathan
            > > > > Driftwood Network Services
            > > > >=20
            > > > >=20
            > > > >=20
            > > > > At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
            > > > > >Hi Everyone,
            > > > > >I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but
            > > > > >unfortunalty it seems the developer is unavailable.
            > > > > >
            > > > > >Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
            > > > > with builtin
            > > > > >compiler support?
            > > > > >If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
            > > > > >
            > > > > >Bill
            > > > > >
            > > > > =
            >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
            =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
            > > > > >William Gilligan
            > > > > >Gilligan On-Line
            > > > >=20
            > > > >=20
            > > > >=20

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