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03-07-05, 10:59 AM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

I like EditPlus. Any full featured text editor will work fine with the
compiler (compile from your editor, jump to a line number on error,
etc.). NoteTab Pro is popular, but I won't consider switching until they
support custom syntax files (color coding).

--

Adam
http://vikingcoders.com

William Gilligan wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but unfortunalty
> it seems the developer is unavailable.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor with builtin
> compiler support?
> If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
>
> Bill

03-07-05, 11:27 AM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

Where can I find a syntax file for Miva Script 4.x ?
Bill

=============================
William Gilligan
Gilligan On-Line
www.gilliganonline.com
850-233-8775

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Denning
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 12:59 PM
> To: William Gilligan
> Cc: Miva Merchant Coders
> Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
>
> I like EditPlus. Any full featured text editor will work fine
> with the
> compiler (compile from your editor, jump to a line number on error,
> etc.). NoteTab Pro is popular, but I won't consider switching
> until they
> support custom syntax files (color coding).
>
> --
>
> Adam
> http://vikingcoders.com
>
> William Gilligan wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> > I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime,
> but unfortunalty
> > it seems the developer is unavailable.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
> with builtin
> > compiler support?
> > If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
> >
> > Bill
>
>

03-07-05, 12:28 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

Ditto.

At 03/07/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
>Where can I find a syntax file for Miva Script 4.x ?
>Bill
>
>=============================
>William Gilligan
>Gilligan On-Line
>www.gilliganonline.com
>850-233-8775
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Denning
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 12:59 PM
> > To: William Gilligan
> > Cc: Miva Merchant Coders
> > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
> >
> > I like EditPlus. Any full featured text editor will work fine
> > with the
> > compiler (compile from your editor, jump to a line number on error,
> > etc.). NoteTab Pro is popular, but I won't consider switching
> > until they
> > support custom syntax files (color coding).
> >
> > --
> >
> > Adam
> > http://vikingcoders.com
> >
> > William Gilligan wrote:
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > > I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime,
> > but unfortunalty
> > > it seems the developer is unavailable.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
> > with builtin
> > > compiler support?
> > > If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> >

03-07-05, 02:12 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

Turns out they have a syntax file on the edit plus website.

However, after burning a half an hour playing with edit plus, I can't
see any compelling reason to switch from notetab pro. Edit plus is
nice, but it doesn't come close to the feature list that I use in
notetab pro.

Scot

Adam wrote:
> Ditto.
>
> At 03/07/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
>
>> Where can I find a syntax file for Miva Script 4.x ?
>> Bill
>>
>> =============================
>> William Gilligan
>> Gilligan On-Line
>> www.gilliganonline.com
>> 850-233-8775
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Denning
>> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 12:59 PM
>> > To: William Gilligan
>> > Cc: Miva Merchant Coders
>> > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
>> >
>> > I like EditPlus. Any full featured text editor will work fine
>> > with the
>> > compiler (compile from your editor, jump to a line number on error,
>> > etc.). NoteTab Pro is popular, but I won't consider switching
>> > until they
>> > support custom syntax files (color coding).
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Adam
>> > http://vikingcoders.com
>> >
>> > William Gilligan wrote:
>> > > Hi Everyone,
>> > > I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime,
>> > but unfortunalty
>> > > it seems the developer is unavailable.
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
>> > with builtin
>> > > compiler support?
>> > > If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
>> > >
>> > > Bill
>> >
>> >

03-07-05, 03:41 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

Funny, I thought the same thing about NoteTab Pro ;)

To me, it's all about comfort. After using the same editor for 7 years
or so, it's hard to switch. And the lack of color coding is a deal
breaker for me. I think Bill Guindon still uses some DOS-based creature
he swears by.

--

Adam
http://vikingcoders.com

Scot Ranney wrote:
> Turns out they have a syntax file on the edit plus website.
>
> However, after burning a half an hour playing with edit plus, I can't
> see any compelling reason to switch from notetab pro. Edit plus is
> nice, but it doesn't come close to the feature list that I use in
> notetab pro.
>
> Scot
>

03-07-05, 03:51 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:41:02 -0800, Adam Denning <[email protected]> wrote:
> Funny, I thought the same thing about NoteTab Pro ;)
>
> To me, it's all about comfort. After using the same editor for 7 years
> or so, it's hard to switch. And the lack of color coding is a deal
> breaker for me. I think Bill Guindon still uses some DOS-based creature
> he swears by.

Well, with version 10, he did go to Windows - tho' it took me a year
or more to switch to that one. It's Boxer, and I downloaded it from a
BBS at 14.4k a few years before I heard of the internet. And yeah,
it's awfully tough to switch at this point.

I have been playing with UltraEdit recently. Boxer can handle having
many more files open than UE, but UE has a "Function" list - small
window with all the function names in your file, and they7 just added
"Code Folding" so you can collapse functions/comments to make
scrolling through your files easier.

Those two may get me to switch, but not positive. If you're
undecided, it's definitely worth looking at.

--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)

03-07-05, 03:56 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

Bill Guindon wrote:
>
> I have been playing with UltraEdit recently. Boxer can handle having
> many more files open than UE, but UE has a "Function" list - small
> window with all the function names in your file, and they7 just added
> "Code Folding" so you can collapse functions/comments to make
> scrolling through your files easier.

Nice, I would love collapsible functions. Out of curiosity, does it
remember what is collapsed for each file when closing?

--

Adam
http://vikingcoders.com

03-07-05, 04:03 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:56:19 -0800, Adam Denning <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bill Guindon wrote:
> >
> > I have been playing with UltraEdit recently. Boxer can handle having
> > many more files open than UE, but UE has a "Function" list - small
> > window with all the function names in your file, and they7 just added
> > "Code Folding" so you can collapse functions/comments to make
> > scrolling through your files easier.
>
> Nice, I would love collapsible functions. Out of curiosity, does it
> remember what is collapsed for each file when closing?

Yep, it does. It seems to be path based (the logical choice), so
copies, or moved files won't be collapsed.

--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)

03-07-05, 04:31 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

One of the habits that I've developed with NoteTab Pro is hitting the
esc key, then typing the first few letters of the tag I want to use and
the rest is automatic. I also can't live without the perpetual
file-list that I have filled with scripts I'm working on to the right of
the edit window.

It does not have function collapsing, and only very simple color coding.
But I've learned to well document my code which has been a real bonus
over the years (you know, opening that code from 2001 and trying to
figure out how it ticks).

I played around with the rest of the editors people mentioned, but none
of them seem to come close to NoteTab as far as automation goes. They
will put the miva script tag in the document, but NoteTab will put the
tag in teh document already filled in with values from a little tag
pop-up that comes up when selecting a tag with the mouse or the esc key.

It's just so fast- if the other editors can do that, I'm interested.
I'd love to have function collapsing and better color coding...

Scot

Adam Denning wrote:
> Funny, I thought the same thing about NoteTab Pro ;)
>
> To me, it's all about comfort. After using the same editor for 7 years
> or so, it's hard to switch. And the lack of color coding is a deal
> breaker for me. I think Bill Guindon still uses some DOS-based creature
> he swears by.
>

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03-07-05, 08:27 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

FWIW, EditPlus also does auto-complete. There is an auto-complete file
for Miva Script I made in the link I sent earlier and it's easy to
tailor things like where the cursor goes after the tag is inserted. You
don't have to push escape, just the auto-complete keystrokes + <space>.
It also has a "projects" component, but I rarely use it

Adam

Scot Ranney wrote:
> One of the habits that I've developed with NoteTab Pro is hitting the
> esc key, then typing the first few letters of the tag I want to use and
> the rest is automatic. I also can't live without the perpetual
> file-list that I have filled with scripts I'm working on to the right of
> the edit window.
>
> It does not have function collapsing, and only very simple color coding.
> But I've learned to well document my code which has been a real bonus
> over the years (you know, opening that code from 2001 and trying to
> figure out how it ticks).
>
> I played around with the rest of the editors people mentioned, but none
> of them seem to come close to NoteTab as far as automation goes. They
> will put the miva script tag in the document, but NoteTab will put the
> tag in teh document already filled in with values from a little tag
> pop-up that comes up when selecting a tag with the mouse or the esc key.
>
> It's just so fast- if the other editors can do that, I'm interested. I'd
> love to have function collapsing and better color coding...
>
> Scot
>
> Adam Denning wrote:
>
>> Funny, I thought the same thing about NoteTab Pro ;)
>>
>> To me, it's all about comfort. After using the same editor for 7 years
>> or so, it's hard to switch. And the lack of color coding is a deal
>> breaker for me. I think Bill Guindon still uses some DOS-based
>> creature he swears by.
>>

03-07-05, 08:33 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva Script code dictionary
and syntax libraries available on their site.

There is none other (grin)

Jonathan
Driftwood Network Services

At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but unfortunalty
>it seems the developer is unavailable.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor with builtin
>compiler support?
>If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
>
>Bill
>
>=============================
>William Gilligan
>Gilligan On-Line

03-07-05, 09:41 PM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

Well, especially when you created the basic Mivascript Syntax library<G>.
Frankly, though I lust sometimes for the features in other editors, its what
you grew up with, and since I grew up with TextPad (thanks to Jonathan), its
what I'm most comfortable with.

-Bruce

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> - Driftwood
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:34 PM
> To: William Gilligan; Miva Merchant Coders
> Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
>
> TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva Script
> code dictionary and syntax libraries available on their site.
>
> There is none other (grin)
>
> Jonathan
> Driftwood Network Services
>
>
>
> At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
> >Hi Everyone,
> >I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but
> >unfortunalty it seems the developer is unavailable.
> >
> >Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
> with builtin
> >compiler support?
> >If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >=============================
> >William Gilligan
> >Gilligan On-Line
>
>
>

03-08-05, 08:09 AM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

I use EditPlus almost exclusively for VBScript. Function collapse would
be a nice feature. Color coding for EP is great.=20
When I work with VB.Net I switch to Visual Studio .net. It is clearly a
step above all text editors but also as clearly costs more then 10 times
the price.
Code completion would be nice for Edit Plus but not the way they
implement it, it needs to work more like a "combo-box", instead of
assuming the completion on enter.
A list of all variables and objects in the page would be awesome,
something I think Gorilla has indicated that Boxer does.
What I'd really like is an editor that will code for me and I can spend
more time at the MvWaterCooler debating about the merits of various
scripting languages.
So hey, what's so bad about .NET? I heard some comments from Jeff Huber
on the list and he sounded like he does not like .net. What's the beef?
I'm sure comparing Miva to VB is like comparing Apple to PC, but then
the other side of the coin is that VB based languages seem to be much
better then Miva from my perspective. How can someone with proficiency
in both languages possibly prefer MV over VB? Shall we compare
functionality and ease of use? Speed and shortcuts? Tools and support? I
can quote a list of reasons why I think Vb is far, far better, but not
unless invited to do so. Donning my flame-suit.

Andrew=20

=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:42 AM
> To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
> Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
>=20
>=20
> Well, especially when you created the basic Mivascript Syntax=20
> library<G>. Frankly, though I lust sometimes for the features=20
> in other editors, its what you grew up with, and since I grew=20
> up with TextPad (thanks to Jonathan), its what I'm most=20
> comfortable with.
>=20
> -Bruce=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan=20
> > - Driftwood
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:34 PM
> > To: William Gilligan; Miva Merchant Coders
> > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
> >=20
> > TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva Script
> > code dictionary and syntax libraries available on their site.
> >=20
> > There is none other (grin)
> >=20
> > Jonathan
> > Driftwood Network Services
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
> > >Hi Everyone,
> > >I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but
> > >unfortunalty it seems the developer is unavailable.
> > >
> > >Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
> > with builtin
> > >compiler support?
> > >If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
> > >
> > >Bill
> > >
> > =
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > >William Gilligan
> > >Gilligan On-Line
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20

03-08-05, 09:37 AM

Semi OT: Miva Script Editor

> I'm sure comparing Miva to VB is like comparing Apple to PC,

No, its like comparing Cold medicines to Flu vaccines.

> but then the other side of the coin is that VB based
> languages seem to be much better then Miva from my
> perspective. How can someone with proficiency in both
> languages possibly prefer MV over VB? Shall we compare
> functionality and ease of use? Speed and shortcuts? Tools and
> support? I can quote a list of reasons why I think Vb is far,
> far better, but not unless invited to do so. Donning my flame-suit.

I don't see any VB cart systems out there...I can build a secure form
processor faster in mivascript than you can even get a vb shell up...but
then, it would be hard to write StoreMan in Mivascript no?

-Bruce (who thought he had the flu but just has a cold so I know what I'm
taking about as far as the analogy goes) Golub

> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Golub [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:42 AM
> > To: 'Miva Merchant Coders'
> > Subject: RE: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
> >
> >
> > Well, especially when you created the basic Mivascript Syntax
> > library<G>. Frankly, though I lust sometimes for the
> features in other
> > editors, its what you grew up with, and since I grew up
> with TextPad
> > (thanks to Jonathan), its what I'm most comfortable with.
> >
> > -Bruce
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> > > - Driftwood
> > > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:34 PM
> > > To: William Gilligan; Miva Merchant Coders
> > > Subject: Re: [mrc] Semi OT: Miva Script Editor
> > >
> > > TextPad. Extensible, powerful, very powerful. Miva Script code
> > > dictionary and syntax libraries available on their site.
> > >
> > > There is none other (grin)
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > > Driftwood Network Services
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:45 PM 3/7/2005, William Gilligan wrote:
> > > >Hi Everyone,
> > > >I have been using a program for Miva Script for sometime, but
> > > >unfortunalty it seems the developer is unavailable.
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone have any suggestions for a Miva Script editor
> > > with builtin
> > > >compiler support?
> > > >If not - Anyone know where R. Jackson Wilson is?
> > > >
> > > >Bill
> > > >
> > > >=============================
> > > >William Gilligan
> > > >Gilligan On-Line
> > >
> > >
> > >

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