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#2 · 05-12-05, 09:31 AM

OT: Tiger?

On Thu, 12 May 2005 09:22:55 -0700, Remik - dotCOM designers wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Murphy" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:31 AM
> Subject: [mru] OT: Tiger?
>
>
>> Any Mac out there people upgrade to Tiger yet? If so, How is it?
>> Any problems with any software that you've had to upgrade or any
>> other issues?
>
> Have been running Tiger since the day it was released - no problems
> to report. Feels faster than 10.3. Some of the new toolbars look
> odd - going against Apple's own design criteria for uniqueness
> between all buttons (unique shapes emphasizing the outline form),
> but overall, my impression with Tiger so far is very positive.
>
> Remik

I think what you're seeing is the system-wide keyboard-access
highlighting (Keyboard Shortcuts). Use "Keyboard & Mouse" preferences
(tab: Keyboard Shortcuts) to set it to "Text boxes and lists only."
(Or toggle with Ctrl-F7).

Tony Cecala

#3 · 05-12-05, 11:08 AM

OT: Tiger?

No beer, but in your honor I'll crack one soon.

It packs beautifully. No open languages or Storeman.

I do use SFL by Coperniva (new word!!). The short URLs have the same
result.

Gordon

On May 11, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Leslie Nord - Webs Your Way wrote:

> Packing produce any errors, are you using Open Languages, StoreMan,
> too much beer ;)
>
>
> Leslie
>
> On 5/11/05, Gordon Moe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That would have been too much of a "Doh"
>>
>> The product is checked ACTIVE. Should have mentioned in my earlier
>> post.
>>
>> I tried unchecking it and then rechecking it. Same error exists.
>>
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>> On May 11, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Wendy Estes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gordon!
>>>
>>> Is it possible that the product is checked off as "inactive"?
>>>
>>>
>>> Wendy Estes
>>> www.digitecoptical.com
>>> Hosted at Hostasaurus.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon
>>> Moe
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:59 PM
>>> To: Miva Merchant Users
>>> Subject: [mru] one product is there, but it isn't
>>>
>>> Wierd.
>>>
>>> My URL that looks like this:
>>>
>>> <A HREF ="http://www.ebirdseed.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?">http://www.ebirdseed.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?</A>
>>> Screen=PROD&Product_Code=XXXXXX&Category_Code=YYYY YY
>>>
>>> Produces this:
>>> ----------------
>>> Fatal Error
>>>
>>> Miva Merchant has encountered a fatal error and is unable to
>>> continue.
>>> The following information may assist you in determining the cause of
>>> the
>>> error:
>>>
>>> Error Code: MER-DTB-00073
>>> Description: Product 'XXXXXX' not found
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> However, in admin.mvc, I can go to Products and view "XXXXXX" and see
>>> all of
>>> its desc., attributes, etc. It behaves as normal.
>>>
>>> In admin.mvc, I can also go to Categories and view "YYYYYY" and see
>>> everything too and see that XXXXXX is assigned.
>>>
>>> When I view the Category YYYYYY in my store, it is a blank page.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am thoroughly prepared for a "Doh" moment, however, help is
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Gordon
>
>

#4 · 05-12-05, 11:14 AM

OT: Tiger?

Am I seeing list lag or does the list not like me tonight?

Leslie

#5 · 05-12-05, 04:31 PM

OT: Tiger?

On Thu, 12 May 2005 12:08:20 -0700, Remik - dotCOM designers wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [mru] OT: Tiger?
>=20
>=20
>> On Thu, 12 May 2005 09:22:55 -0700, Remik - dotCOM designers wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Murphy"=20
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:31 AM
>>> Subject: [mru] OT: Tiger?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> Any Mac out there people upgrade to Tiger yet? If so, How is it?
>>>> Any problems with any software that you've had to upgrade or any
>>>> other issues?
>>>=20
>>> Have been running Tiger since the day it was released - no problems
>>> to report. Feels faster than 10.3. Some of the new toolbars look
>>> odd - going against Apple's own design criteria for uniqueness
>>> between all buttons (unique shapes emphasizing the outline form),
>>> but overall, my impression with Tiger so far is very positive.
>>>=20
>>> Remik
>>=20
>> I think what you're seeing is the system-wide keyboard-access
>> highlighting (Keyboard Shortcuts). Use "Keyboard & Mouse" preferences
>> (tab: Keyboard Shortcuts) to set it to "Text boxes and lists only."
>> (Or toggle with Ctrl-F7).
>=20
> No, that's not it. In 10.3 and below, all buttons used to have a=20
> unique look (shapes) that were easily distinguishable whether in=20
> color, B&W, or just simple outlines. This is one of the "for as=20
> long as I can remember" practices that Apple was famous for. In=20
> Tiger the new toolbars have "identically" shaped buttons - the=20
> ovals or rectangles with rounded ends, depending on the number of=20
> buttons in a row. That goes agains all UI design specs that Apple=20
> still has on their web site, and against all usabilitity studies=20
> they did over the past couple of decades.
>=20
> Example: compare Mail between 10.3 and 10.4. Previously all=20
> toolbar icons had unique shapes and colors, now they all have=20
> identical "oval button" shapes. I think toolbars used to look=20
> better in 10.3
>=20
> Remik=20

I see. I agree with you--the toolbar buttons do look more alike in=20
Mail 10.4.=20

I haven't been up-to-date on the Apple UI Guidelines for a few years.=20
But as I understand things at Apple, you have to break some rules to=20
make new ones; e.g., brushed-metal iTunes UI.

=46rom a cursory glance, appears that they've simply encapsulated icons=20
'under' a 'glassy' button enclosure.

Tony

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