test

Google Link/CBS Storemap



Hi everyone,

Just thought I'd save someone some troubleshooting. I updated OUI
yesterday to 4.955 (well, Adam @ dotCOM updated it for me...) and just
discovered 24 hours later that all my 'add to basket' buttons were
missing on my product pages. YIKES! So, anyone using PPT & upgrades OUI,
check your %prodadd% buttons. What finally made the %prodadd% buttons
reappear is removing all tokens relating to inventory, such as
%begin_instock%, %end_instock%, %begin_outstock%, %stockmessage%,
%end_outstock%. (What one can use in lieu of those inventory tokens, I
haven't investigated since I do not use MIVA's inventory features).

Just a heads up :-)

Julie

Google Link/CBS Storemap



On 5/17/05, Linda Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
> How do you get a "good" SFL link??
>=20
> Was there an upgrade to SFL or storemap that does better? Why wouldn't
> storemap write "good" ones if they work together?
>=20
> So if we have to go in and change all the llnks on the html pages-- shoul=
d
> the category pages look like this?
>=20
> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/page=3DIP/CTGY/Ahava">http://www.israeliproducts.com/page=3DIP/CTGY/Ahava</A>
>=20
> instead of:
>=20
> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=3DIP/CTGY/Ahav=">http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=3DIP/CTGY/Ahav=</A>
a
>=20
> In other words... search and replace:
>=20
> Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
>=20
> That's always OK to do?
> (Then how come merchant isn't programmed that way to begin with? Is that =
a
> ridiculous question?)

Can't answer your other questions, but this one seemed fairly easy.

Because Merchant doesn't (and probably shouldn't) assume that you have
Apache/mod_rewrite installed, and that you have an appropriate
.htaccess file.

ps: it's not a ridiculous question, and you get bonus points for
spelling ridiculous correctly :)
=20
>=20
> Linda Katz
> israeliproducts.com
>=20
> >> I don't know. here is an example- is that an SFL link?
> >>
> >> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=3DIP/PROD/H=">http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=3DIP/PROD/H=</A>
CR004
> >
> > A bad sfl link, yes. should be israeliproducts.com/page/IP/PROD/HCR004
>=20

--=20
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)

Google Link/CBS Storemap



I've completely lost you. Oh well- thanks for trying. I don't want to take
more of your time. Maybe another user can explain in language simple enough
for my brain : (

Linda Katz

> How do you get a "good" SFL link??
>
> Was there an upgrade to SFL or storemap that does better? Why wouldn't
> storemap write "good" ones if they work together?

You need to read the documentation. It does what you tell it to do.

> So if we have to go in and change all the llnks on the html pages-- should
> the category pages look like this?
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/page=IP/CTGY/Ahava">http://www.israeliproducts.com/page=IP/CTGY/Ahava</A>
>
> instead of:
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=IP/CTGY/Ahava">http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=IP/CTGY/Ahava</A>

No. Go back and read my last email
> > A bad sfl link, yes. should be israeliproducts.com/page/IP/PROD/HCR004

> In other words... search and replace:
>
> Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
>
> That's always OK to do?

No. Just block /Merchant2/ as instructed in previous emails about
robots.txt

Jason

OT: Google link?



Hi Julie:

Thanks. Sounds like they simply added "redirect permanent" lines to your
.htaccess file. I'll hit the Google website which explains this I believe,
but if anyone can confirm that, I'd appreciate it.


Thank you

Dave Hauser, President
Aquarium Professionals Group


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Julie
Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Aquapro
Cc: 'Miva Merchant Users'
Subject: Re: [mru] OT: Google link?


Hi Dave,

No, no content at all at the domain I had pointing via nameservers.
What happened is, I own www. ultimatenourishment .com (I am breaking up
the url as I do not want spidering of my 301 domain since these archives
do get spidered) and had used my host's nameservers to point people who
may have typed this domain into their browser to resolve to the domain
with all my content which is www.ultimate-weight-products.com This
worked great as far as bringing people who typed my business' name in
the url field. However, Google picked up the www. ultimatenourishment
.com link as people would use this url in forums, etc. Anyway, Google
saw the same content on www. ultimatenourishment .com as on
www.ultimate-weight-products.com, plus since all my links on
www.ultimate-weight-products.com are relative, when one would arrive at
my site via the www. ultimatenourishment .com, the www.
ultimatenourishment .com would still resolve with the
ultimatenourishment in it.... ie: www. ultimatenourishment
.com/page/UN/CTGY/strainer. LOL, does this make sense so far?

When I noticed my site literally disappeared from the face of Google, I
researched, and found that the only acceptable redirect method as far as
Google's Terms Of Use is a 301 (permanent) redirect. And that anecdotal
information suggested that sites were getting penalized and even banned
for using any other redirect method.

So, my ever so amazing host (dotCOM designers) figured out a way to give
a 301 header on any url containing www. ultimatenourishment .com to
www.ultimate-weight-products.com Meaning if there is a url out there
like www. ultimatenourishment .com /page/UN/CTGY/strainer and someone
clicks on it (or Google's spider follows it), it will give a 301 and
take the visitor to http://www.ultimate-weight-products..../CTGY/strainer

I am unsure exactly how the 301 is written to achieve this, but I am
sure David (your host) knows as well.

I hope this helps.

Julie

Aquapro wrote:

> Hmmm.
>
> Julie,
>
> Did you have content on those other domains or did you just have your host
> pointing those domains to your active domain with content?
>
> I'm still confused about this. As I said, I have Hostasaurus pointing
> several other domains (mostly variations of aquariumpros like
> aquariumpros.org, aquariumpros.tv, etc.) to our main domain
> (aquariumpros.com). However, those are not "live" domains with content.
>
> Is that what you had and if so, how did you implement the 301 on the other
> domains if they weren't live sites with editable content?
>
> My understanding from the article that started this whole thread and my
> coorespondence with Google is their new system does look at DNS info such
as
> ownership of domains as part of their ranking system. So a link or non 301
> redirect from an active domain to another active domain with both domains
> owned by the same party will lower ranking.
>
> Thank you
>
> Dave Hauser, President
> Aquarium Professionals Group
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Julie
> Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:45 AM
> To: Bruce Golub - Phosphormedia.com
> Cc: 'Miva Merchant Users'
> Subject: Re: [mru] OT: Google link?
>
>
> Obviously only Google knows for sure and anything else is pure
> speculation, but will not disregard the possibility as I have read too
> many anecdotal experiences with Google purging duplicate content
> *within* the same domain. And my experience, I was using the name
> servers (DNS pointing) to direct another domain to my main domain. And
> within few weeks, the steady rankings my site once had were gone from
> Google. I wasn't banned (the toolbar still showed a PR for my site, and
> a "site:www.domain.com" did bring up all my pages within Google), BUT
> any steady rankings I once enjoyed were literally gone. Even a search
> for my business name, my site was not ranked well after the DNS
> pointing. Once I implemented a 301 on the other domain rather than a
> DNS redirect, my rankings returned. Thus, it leads me to never discount
> what Google defines duplicate content as.
>
> To that end, I am glad that Dave brought to our attention that dynamic
> links and SFL can possibly be construed as duplicate content.
>
> Which leads me back to my original question several posts ago; will
> disallowing robots from spidering /miva/ or /merchant2/ directorys
> (however the host has it set up) block the spiders from indexing SFL too?
>
> Julie
>
> Bruce Golub - Phosphormedia.com wrote:
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>>>So this renders Merchant Optimizer worthless???? And dump
>>>static "doorway"
>>>pages? Use just what Miva Merchant generates? Only have
>>>static informational pages? What a week to head to NYC -
>>>guess I should be a the conference that is going on next to
>>>the Streaming Media - Google is one of teh sponsors
>>>there....didn't see FindWhat listed though.
>>>
>>>Leslie <-- is ready to freakin scream.
>>
>>
>>First of all, absolutly not, second of all, absolutely not<G>.
>>
>>Also, I think some are confusing "mirror" sites with "mirror" pages. I'm
>
> not
>
>>certain, but pretty sure that Google, or any search engine for that
>
> matter,
>
>>does not penelize for duplicate "pages" under the same domain...that would
>>just be silly. What they are penalizing are duplicate pages, under
>
> different
>
>>domains. For example, www.ThisIsTheRealSite.com/rankme.html being exactly
>>the same as www.ThisIsAnotherSite.com/rankthis.html.
>>
>>The only real reason to block /Merchant2 links when using Optimizer is to
>>prevent SE spiders from hammering your store. When crawling a site, they
>
> can
>
>>be generating anywhere from 10 to 100 requests per second. (I suspect a
>
> lot
>
>>of those "all of a sudden my site is slow" posts are simply SE spider
>>visits.)
>>
>>Sorry if I fell into the same rabbit hole as others last night, it was
>
> late
>
>>and a long day.
>>
>>-Bruce Golub
>>PHOSPHOR Media
>>......................................
>>Featuring: StoreMan - A smarter way to manage Miva Merchant(tm) Store
>>Content.
>>Download a hassle-free demo today
>><A HREF ="http://www.phosphormedia.com/go.mv?ID=listsm">http://www.phosphormedia.com/go.mv?ID=listsm</A>
>>......................................
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

OT: Google link?



Jason Henderson wrote:

> In my own mind, I was pretty sure it wouldn't be a problem. Didn't want to
> say definitely and have it come back and bite me. But I did check, and
> spiders will see the sfl link and not say "hey, this is really a
> /Merchant2/merchant.mvc file!!!!"
>
>

Thanks so much Jason. Now, bear with me... I am still recovering from
my missing 'add to basket' buttons...

So, what you are saying is if I enter in my robots.txt file:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /miva/

This will disallow all robots from spidering my dynamic links BUT any
SFL directory style link the robot encounters during the indexing
process will be followed.

So, the robot cannot read the .htaccess rewrite and realize those pages
are really residing in the /miva/ directory?

>
>
>>Julie <---- who is waiting for plane ticket prices to come down to
>>confirm attending the Dallas Conference.... PHX to D/FW is $400!
>
>
> Cool. Glad to hear it.
>

I really, really want to attend! I just cannot believe that I can fly
to NY from Phoenix for less than $300 but a hop to Dallas is $400+.
Here's hoping to airfair wars soon :-)

Julie

OT: checkout this out



Hey Bruce,

While we're on the subject of your dynamic attribute module, I have a usage
question for you. I understand that selecting an attribute can change the
product image, but what happens if you have multiple attributes? Does one
control the image or can certain combinations be set as the trigger? My
attributes are mainly additions or subtractions from a kit. How can I show
the effect of each? This is why I've previously asked about embedding a
link within a attribute prompt. However, I'd rather keep the users within
the current product and simply show them a picture of what they are getting
for their extra few bucks.

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Golub -
Phosphormedia.com
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mru] OT: checkout this out

Yikes! Almost 35K in JS code to do that...hmmm, don't think I wanna go
there....though image swapping with Dynamic Attributes produces a similar
effect, the blending effect would require a complete rewrite...cool as it
is, its also pretty bandwidth intensive when all you want to do is show the
different options.

-Bruce Golub
PHOSPHOR Media
www.phosphormedia.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck
> Lasker - DoublePlus
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:05 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [mru] OT: checkout this out
>
>
> Check out the way the image changes when you select different colors
> in the drop down list. Pretty cool. I'll bet something could be done
> similar with PhosphorMedia's attribute module...
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview/sku=SI73">http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview/sku=SI73</A>
> 7SNX/hppos=19
>
> Chuck Lasker
> DoublePlus New Media Marketing
> [email protected]
>
>

OT: checkout this out



NP. BTW, I checked cheaptickets, and it was only $319

J


> Jason Henderson wrote:
>
> >>
> >>So, the robot cannot read the .htaccess rewrite and realize those pages
> >>are really residing in the /miva/ directory?
> >
> >
> > Correct. It will just see /page/ and not /miva/
> >
>
>
>
> Thanks so much Jason!
>
> Okay, just uploaded my revised robots.txt..... good vibes to the Google
> spider still following my directory style links ;-)
>
>

Google Link/CBS Storemap



If you go into the module, (System Extension Configuration > CBS Search
Friendly Links), you'll see where you can select which type of link style
you want it to create.

I think in an earlier post you said you had it set to Short Link. You can
change it here to Directory Style.

Good luck!

Lori

------------------------

On 5/16/05 9:27 PM, "Linda Katz" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've completely lost you. Oh well- thanks for trying. I don't want to take
> more of your time. Maybe another user can explain in language simple enough
> for my brain : (
>
> Linda Katz
>
>> How do you get a "good" SFL link??
>>
>> Was there an upgrade to SFL or storemap that does better? Why wouldn't
>> storemap write "good" ones if they work together?
>
> You need to read the documentation. It does what you tell it to do.
>
>> So if we have to go in and change all the llnks on the html pages-- should
>> the category pages look like this?
>>
>> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/page=IP/CTGY/Ahava">http://www.israeliproducts.com/page=IP/CTGY/Ahava</A>
>>
>> instead of:
>>
>> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=IP/CTGY/Ahava">http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=IP/CTGY/Ahava</A>
>
> No. Go back and read my last email
>>> A bad sfl link, yes. should be israeliproducts.com/page/IP/PROD/HCR004
>
>> In other words... search and replace:
>>
>> Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
>>
>> That's always OK to do?
>
> No. Just block /Merchant2/ as instructed in previous emails about
> robots.txt
>
> Jason
>
>

OT: Google link?



Anyone used or heard of InfoSearchMedia? Got a sales call...

Dan



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I found a couple of options that offer combined benefits of listserv and
online discussion forums. Has anyone here used either? Anyone else think
something like this would be a good thing for this Miva group?

I'm not a big fan of listserv and would really prefer the option of a
regular discussion forum (not the same as the current online listserv
archive). These 2 options seem to provide the best of both worlds, so might
be popular with many Miva users.

1) phpBB Mail2Forum (M2F).
Add-on to phpBB forum that combines the functionality of a listserv mailing
list and a forum.
http://mail2forum.com/index.php?sid=...bd59aa3e6fafe5

A couple of sites using it:
http://forums.open-seo.com
<A HREF ="http://www.msefi.com (includes lots of long-time listserv users)">http://www.msefi.com (includes lots of long-time listserv users)</A>

2) EchoForum.
Links posts from multiple forums, rss feeds, listservs into a single
interface. Works with a variety of forum and listserv software.
<<A HREF ="http://www.send2press.com/newswire/2005-04-0418-001.shtml>">http://www.send2press.com/newswire/2005-04-0418-001.shtml></A>
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OT: how best to create html newsletters?



We use Dreamweaver and Group Mail Plus.

Wesley.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:19 PM
To: Merchant-Users
Subject: [mru] OT: how best to create html newsletters?


I'm sure everyone here received (non-spam) html newsletters and at least
a few of you create them as well. What do you use? I've looked at using
Outlook (w/MS Word as the editor) or using Incredimail or similar for
creating newsletters to send to subscribers, but they don't seem well
suited for the task.

Also, how do you send them? I know many hosts have no-mass-email
policies, as does my ISP. Gotta be an "official" way to do it.

Thanks,
Tom

RE: Tim's Lame Email Service



If you're going to use a challenge/response spam blocker, at least use one
that can apply rules to allow list mail through without having to require
every single member of the list to respond. Choice mail
(<A HREF ="http://www.digiportal.com) is one such product. (No, I don't have any">http://www.digiportal.com) is one such product. (No, I don't have any</A>
relationship with digiportal).

Larry Hiscock
AngelicHost


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Guindon
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:41 PM
To: mivalist
Cc: Merchant Users; Miva User Group Support
Subject: Re: [mru] RE: Tim's Lame Email Service

On 5/16/05, mivalist <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Please unsubscribe from the list (or Miva support, please assist with
that)
> until such time as you're willing to not place the burden of insuring your
> privacy on those who are here to help you (for free). The verification
> notices are really getting old.

I fought this fight with another list member today, got nowhere (I think).

Miva can't stop them, as they are sent direct to you after the message
is recieved from the list. That said, it would be great if they'd add
something to the footer...

Please do NOT use SpamArrest (or other similar services) on the
address you use for the lists.
Please do NOT set vacation/away autoresponders on the address you use
for the lists.

> Do you make customers of your store put up with this as well?
>
> Dan
> Impulse Creations
>
> For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service visit us at
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to
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> and free shipping!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: RE: [mru] Upsell Process (verification)
>
> Tim here,
>
> I'm protecting myself from receiving junk mail.
>
> Just this once, click the link below so I can receive your emails. You
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>
>
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OT: Google link?



If ALL the links are like this /page/IP/PROD/HCR004 it's okay? But if
there are links that are not they need to be standardized? I have a client
that asked to use static "doorway" pages - what about those?

Leslie

>> I don't know. here is an example- is that an SFL link?
>>
>> <A HREF ="http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=IP/PROD/HCR004">http://www.israeliproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=IP/PROD/HCR004</A>
>
> A bad sfl link, yes. should be israeliproducts.com/page/IP/PROD/HCR004
>
>> I have SFL set to "short link". I didn't see an answer to Lori yet-- if
>> having both SFL and non-SFL is a problem... is this even an issue?
>
> Yes. You want one or the other.
>
>>I can't
>> see why SFL and storemap- bought together- wouldn't be made to work
>> together..?
>>
>> Linda Katz
>> www.israeliproducts.com
>
> ?? Huh? They would and do work together.
>
> Jason
>
>> >> Jason says it's OK to "keep the store map pages but change the
>> links".
> If
>> > I
>> >> have SFL- do I need to change any links? If so -- how?
>> >
>> > depends. Are the links on the sitemap pages SFL links? As I said
> before,
>> > download them and search and replace.
>> >
>> > Jason
>>

customizing search box



look carefully at the source on the search screen
you probably need a hidden form field like name=screen value=SRCH
Your form isn't telling Merchant where to go
Kelly


Mike Dunlop wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a question. I created my own search box in our miva store and
> duplicated the original form elements:
>
> * action="<priv>/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?"
> * added the hidden <input name="Store_Code" value="<priv>"
> type="hidden">
>
> Whenever i do a search , it just goes to the homepage as if it's not
> seeing a particular variable in the POST to tell it this is a search.
> Am i missing something here?
>
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> - Mike D
>

RE: Tim's Lame Email Service



Or just pickup Cloudmark and silently run it yourself.

Pamela
Real Solutions for Miva Merchant
The Official Guide to Miva Merchant
<A HREF ="http://www.designextend.com/DE">http://www.designextend.com/DE</A>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Larry Hiscock
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:04 PM
> To: 'Bill Guindon'; 'mivalist'
> Cc: 'Merchant Users'; 'Miva User Group Support'
> Subject: RE: [mru] RE: Tim's Lame Email Service
>
>
> If you're going to use a challenge/response spam blocker, at
> least use one that can apply rules to allow list mail through
> without having to require every single member of the list to
> respond. Choice mail
> (<A HREF ="http://www.digiportal.com) is one such product. (No, I ">http://www.digiportal.com) is one such product. (No, I </A>
> don't have any relationship with digiportal).
>
> Larry Hiscock
> AngelicHost
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Bill Guindon
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:41 PM
> To: mivalist
> Cc: Merchant Users; Miva User Group Support
> Subject: Re: [mru] RE: Tim's Lame Email Service
>
> On 5/16/05, mivalist <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> > Please unsubscribe from the list (or Miva support, please
> assist with
> that)
> > until such time as you're willing to not place the burden
> of insuring
> > your privacy on those who are here to help you (for free). The
> > verification notices are really getting old.
>
> I fought this fight with another list member today, got
> nowhere (I think).
>
> Miva can't stop them, as they are sent direct to you after
> the message is recieved from the list. That said, it would
> be great if they'd add something to the footer...
>
> Please do NOT use SpamArrest (or other similar services) on
> the address you use for the lists. Please do NOT set
> vacation/away autoresponders on the address you use for the lists.
>
> > Do you make customers of your store put up with this as well?
> >
> > Dan
> > Impulse Creations
> >
> > For low priced back issue comics and the very best in
> service visit us
> > at www.impulsecreations.net
> <<A HREF ="http://www.impulsecreations.net/> and be ">http://www.impulsecreations.net/> and be </A>
> > sure
> to
> > look for information on our discounted subscription service
> with free
> > bags and free shipping!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: RE: [mru] Upsell Process (verification)
> >
> > Tim here,
> >
> > I'm protecting myself from receiving junk mail.
> >
> > Just this once, click the link below so I can receive your
> emails. You
> won't
> > have to do this again.
> >
> >
> http://spamarrest.com/a2?ZGp4AmHjZmc...coKO1oUAyL3WyL
> KEco25mYz5yqQc
> > HnJ0j
> >
> > You are receiving this message in response to your email to Tim, a
> > Spam Arrest customer. Spam Arrest requests that senders verify
> > themselves before their email is delivered.
> > When you click the above link, you will be taken to a page
> with a graphic
> on
> > it. Simply read the word in the graphic, type it into the form, and
> > you're verified. You will only need to do this once per Spam Arrest
> > customer.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Below are the complete headers of the message that this email was
> generated
> > in response to.
> >
> > Status: U
> > Return-Path:
> > Received: from listmgr.miva.com ([207.67.195.27])
> > by new.mail.atl.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server)
> with SMTP id
> > 1dxQvj3BQ3Nl3oX0
> > for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:04:13 -0400 (EDT)
> > Received: (qmail 1147 invoked by alias); 17 May 2005 16:18:05 -0000
> > Mailing-List: contact [email protected]; run by
> > ezmlm
> > X-No-Archive: yes
> > List-Post:
> > List-Help:
> > List-Unsubscribe:
> > List-Subscribe:
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected]
> > Received: (qmail 1138 invoked from network); 17 May 2005
> 16:18:05 -0000
> > From: "mivalist"
> > To: "Kent" ,
> > "Merchant-Users"
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:06:01 -0500
> > Message-ID:
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="windows-1250"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
> > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> > Importance: Normal
> > In-Reply-To: <[email protected] >
> > X-SpamBouncer: 1.5 (11/12/02)
> > X-SBClass: OK
> > Subject: RE: [mru] Upsell Process
> > X-ELNK-AV: 0
> > X-SA-Poll-Id: 1dxQvj3BQ3Nl3oX0..2..1116291961000
> > X-SA-USERIDNR: 1676603
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Webmasters help stop spam and make 50%.
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> > <http://spamarrest.com/affl?1787503/affiliates/index.jsp>
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 5/16/05
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
>
>