[OT] Mozilla/Firefox & Gmail/Web Development

Just saw a post (on the Ruby list) mentioning the issue with Gmail
using proportional
fonts, and thought I'd toss out a couple of recent finds.

One of them is a general tool for web developers [1], and has a lot of
handy features. Among other things, It cover forms, images, page
size, validation,
etc. I've only been using it for a short time, but I'm already hooked on t=
hese:

Resize - resizes your browser window to 800x600, or a custom size.
Outline - applies css to the page you're viewing to add borders to
tables, cells, etc.

On the Gmail side, it also let's you apply a local style sheet to the
webpage of your choice. This allows me to force Gmail messages to
display in fixed width by using the following css...

div.msg div.mb {
font-family: monospace !important;
font-size: 14px !important;
}

Many thanks to Milo Vermeulen [2], who supplied the css, and his blog
commenters who linked to the Web Developer tool.

[1] http://chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/
[2] http://milov.nl/2608

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Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)

[OT] Mozilla/Firefox & Gmail/Web Development



On 4/29/05, Richard Grevers <lists@dramatic.co.nz> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:17:59 -0400, Bill Guindon <agorilla@gmail.com> gav=
e
> utterance to the following:
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> > Just saw a post (on the Ruby list) mentioning the issue with Gmail
> > using proportional
> > fonts, and thought I'd toss out a couple of recent finds.
> >
> > One of them is a general tool for web developers [1], and has a lot of
> > handy features. Among other things, It cover forms, images, page
> > size, validation,
> > etc. I've only been using it for a short time, but I'm already hooked
> > on these:
> >
> > Resize - resizes your browser window to 800x600, or a custom size.
> > Outline - applies css to the page you're viewing to add borders to
> > tables, cells, etc.
> >
> > On the Gmail side, it also let's you apply a local style sheet to the
> > webpage of your choice. This allows me to force Gmail messages to
> > display in fixed width by using the following css...
> >
> > div.msg div.mb {
> > font-family: monospace !important;
> > font-size: 14px !important;
> > }
> >
> Hmm, features which have all been built in to Opera for years now.
> Opera's debug-with outline is better than anything Moz can do, as it
> doesn't distort thepage at all. (It uses the outline property, not
> implemented by IE and Mozilla, which unlike borders, takes up zero space
> in the layout - outlines appear outside borders and overlapping
> neighboruing content instead.

Haven't looked at Opera in a couple years. When I first saw it, it
was a layer on top of IE, which was enough to send me away from it.=20
Perhaps it worth looking at again.

> Now, why are some list posts coming addressed to listmgr.miva.com since
> the test posts the other day??

They announced an address change, and said the old addresses would no
longer work. But oddly enough, the reply to on this message was
miva-users@miva.com. Either way, I'm just playing it safe.

> --
> Richard Grevers
> Between two evils always pick the one you haven't tried
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Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)