[OT] Mozilla/Firefox & Gmail/Web Development

Just saw a post (on the Ruby list) mentioning the issue with Gmail
using proportional
fonts, and thought I'd toss out a couple of recent finds.

One of them is a general tool for web developers [1], and has a lot of
handy features. Among other things, It cover forms, images, page
size, validation,
etc. I've only been using it for a short time, but I'm already hooked on t=
hese:

Resize - resizes your browser window to 800x600, or a custom size.
Outline - applies css to the page you're viewing to add borders to
tables, cells, etc.

On the Gmail side, it also let's you apply a local style sheet to the
webpage of your choice. This allows me to force Gmail messages to
display in fixed width by using the following css...

div.msg div.mb {
font-family: monospace !important;
font-size: 14px !important;
}

Many thanks to Milo Vermeulen [2], who supplied the css, and his blog
commenters who linked to the Web Developer tool.

[1] http://chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/
[2] http://milov.nl/2608

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Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)

[OT] Mozilla/Firefox & Gmail/Web Development



On 4/29/05, Richard Grevers <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:17:59 -0400, Bill Guindon <[email protected]> gav=
e
> utterance to the following:
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> > Just saw a post (on the Ruby list) mentioning the issue with Gmail
> > using proportional
> > fonts, and thought I'd toss out a couple of recent finds.
> >
> > One of them is a general tool for web developers [1], and has a lot of
> > handy features. Among other things, It cover forms, images, page
> > size, validation,
> > etc. I've only been using it for a short time, but I'm already hooked
> > on these:
> >
> > Resize - resizes your browser window to 800x600, or a custom size.
> > Outline - applies css to the page you're viewing to add borders to
> > tables, cells, etc.
> >
> > On the Gmail side, it also let's you apply a local style sheet to the
> > webpage of your choice. This allows me to force Gmail messages to
> > display in fixed width by using the following css...
> >
> > div.msg div.mb {
> > font-family: monospace !important;
> > font-size: 14px !important;
> > }
> >
> Hmm, features which have all been built in to Opera for years now.
> Opera's debug-with outline is better than anything Moz can do, as it
> doesn't distort thepage at all. (It uses the outline property, not
> implemented by IE and Mozilla, which unlike borders, takes up zero space
> in the layout - outlines appear outside borders and overlapping
> neighboruing content instead.

Haven't looked at Opera in a couple years. When I first saw it, it
was a layer on top of IE, which was enough to send me away from it.=20
Perhaps it worth looking at again.

> Now, why are some list posts coming addressed to listmgr.miva.com since
> the test posts the other day??

They announced an address change, and said the old addresses would no
longer work. But oddly enough, the reply to on this message was
[email protected]. Either way, I'm just playing it safe.

> --
> Richard Grevers
> Between two evils always pick the one you haven't tried
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Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)