Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

[Kent Multer]

Hi folks --

Can a Merchant module send emails with "Bcc" copies? I tried to set up a header for the SendEmail() utility function, but that didn't work. I don't mind writing an MvSMTP tag if that will do the trick. Anyone know how to do it?

Thanks --

[Bruce - PhosphorMedia]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

hey kent...Ivo had a "hack" for this...check his site (www.truxoff.com) if its still up...if you can't find it i can dig around...I know i use it for dev stuff all the time but iz swamped at the moment.

[Kent Multer]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Found it, thanks. www.truxoft.com and click "Resources." Ivo has a bunch of other great tips there.

[Kent Multer]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Whoa, hold on a sec. I just read the text of that article. The recommended technique is to make a hex edit to the Empresa binary, and change the "Cc" header to "Bcc." I don't think I like that. It means that every other Cc email generated by the store will also become a Bcc. Also, I wonder how the PCI auditors would feel about that sort of thing.

Ivo's article says that the cause of this problem is "a buggy SMTP header sent by Miva's MvSMTP command." MMCorp guys, are you following this thread? Any chance we can get a fix for this in the near future? It's not urgent; I think my client can live with Cc's for now.

Thanks --

[Dramatic]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Unless MvSMTP has changed in version 5.x you can add additional headers thus:

<MIVA STANDARDOUTPUTLEVEL="text">
<MvSMTP 
TO="to_address1,to_address2,..." 
SUBJECT="expression" 
CC="cc_address1,cc_address2,..." 
MAILHOST="mailhost" 
FROM="from_address"> 
<MvEVAL EXPR="{'Bcc: ' $ g.bcc_address}">
[optional headers] 
[blank line] 
... message body (text/tags)... 
</MvSMTP>

[Kent Multer]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Thanks, Richard; but have you actually tried that? Ivo's article specifically states that there is a bug in MvSMTP; and I think he must have tried the technique you suggested. (In case you're new to this community, I should mention that Ivo Truxa is the "guru." I don't think there's anyone around here with more expertise then him, not only on Miva, but also on related issues like HTTP headers. But he hasn't participated in the forums much in the last year or two.)

[Scott McCollough]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

That article was written in early 2000. In his example he's tried up until version 3.64. It's very possible that it's been fixed by now. I would try the code above and see what happens.

[Kent Multer]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Actually, I kinda did already. If you look at the source code for the SendEmail utility function, it does what your snippet does.

[Dramatic]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

I've successfully inserted reply-to: headers that way - haven't tried bcc.

[Kent Multer]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

It does seem odd that Bcc doesn't work when other types of headers do. But Ivo and I have both reached the same conclusion about this. His article doesn't go into detail about the bug. But I bet, if someone from MMCorp were to reach out to him, he'd provide the specifics, and probably the solution as well.

[Rick Wilson]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

if someone from MMCorp were to reach out to him, he'd provide the specifics, and probably the solution as well.

LOL, I've reached out to him many times about many things in the last few years, 99% of the time I get ZERO reply.

I'm sure we can track this down and see what's going on.

[Kent Multer]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Thanks, Rick; I know you guys have plenty of other things on your to-do list.

[Jim Cockerham]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Is there currently any way to add a BCC to the shipping notification emails?

[Rick Wilson]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

It's on our list for V9, but it's not currently possible with the built in modules.

[Bruce - PhosphorMedia]

Re: Send "Bcc" copies with emails?

Jim,

With the current release of Merchant, there is a workaround. Just create a second Shipping confirmation email template to send to the address that you'd normally BCC. Not great, but you can do it now.:)